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	<title>Comments on: Impact of WAG policy? &#8211; &#8220;At best marginal&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Ricardus Iuvenis</title>
		<link>http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/08/impact-of-wag-policy-at-best-marginal/comment-page-1/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardus Iuvenis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure the historical evidence for  true communities in Welsh social history speaks for itself - the death of &#039;community&#039; probably originates from a time coinciding with Thatcher&#039;s &quot;no such thing as society&quot; speeches, along with both mass unemployment in industrial areas and the gentrification of rural Wales.

In rural areas such as Llandysul community was probably based in the relative stability of the rural population and the viability of the rural economy. Nowadays, many rural villages house professional commuter families, enjoying a rural setting while climbing their way up the housing ladder. 

In industrial areas, community existed because the entire working class population found employment in a tiny handful of massive businesses; factories/foundries etc. Through that, and the remaining amenities of a town &#039;community&#039; was palpable

Beyond the loss of the above, the loss of organised religion in Wales, as well as the decline in popularity of working men&#039;s clubs etc. have spelt the end of community life, and brought in a new age of socially insular and materially aspirational families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure the historical evidence for  true communities in Welsh social history speaks for itself &#8211; the death of &#8216;community&#8217; probably originates from a time coinciding with Thatcher&#8217;s &#8220;no such thing as society&#8221; speeches, along with both mass unemployment in industrial areas and the gentrification of rural Wales.</p>
<p>In rural areas such as Llandysul community was probably based in the relative stability of the rural population and the viability of the rural economy. Nowadays, many rural villages house professional commuter families, enjoying a rural setting while climbing their way up the housing ladder. </p>
<p>In industrial areas, community existed because the entire working class population found employment in a tiny handful of massive businesses; factories/foundries etc. Through that, and the remaining amenities of a town &#8216;community&#8217; was palpable</p>
<p>Beyond the loss of the above, the loss of organised religion in Wales, as well as the decline in popularity of working men&#8217;s clubs etc. have spelt the end of community life, and brought in a new age of socially insular and materially aspirational families.</p>
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		<title>By: Stonemason</title>
		<link>http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/08/impact-of-wag-policy-at-best-marginal/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Stonemason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there has ever been &quot;community&quot;, except possibly where conflict has existed for a brief historical period, and that &quot;community&quot; is in fact &quot;group preservation&quot;.

I can remember &quot;community&quot; during my military service, particularly during times of conflict, that was controlled &quot;community service&quot; and to do with group cohesion.

If I am correct then government and the chattering classes are chirping for their own personal motives, or possibly as a &quot;political community&quot;, under duress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there has ever been &#8220;community&#8221;, except possibly where conflict has existed for a brief historical period, and that &#8220;community&#8221; is in fact &#8220;group preservation&#8221;.</p>
<p>I can remember &#8220;community&#8221; during my military service, particularly during times of conflict, that was controlled &#8220;community service&#8221; and to do with group cohesion.</p>
<p>If I am correct then government and the chattering classes are chirping for their own personal motives, or possibly as a &#8220;political community&#8221;, under duress.</p>
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		<title>By: Dai Bola</title>
		<link>http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/08/impact-of-wag-policy-at-best-marginal/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Dai Bola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this what Labour want....Here are Hain&#039;s words.....&quot;There are now more people from England settling in Wales than there have ever been: one in five of the whole population and increasing by the day. This enriches Wales culturally, socially and economically.”   

I can see how some people moving into an area may have positive effects.....but the scale at which it&#039;s happening with it&#039;s negative effects cannot be good for any society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this what Labour want&#8230;.Here are Hain&#8217;s words&#8230;..&#8221;There are now more people from England settling in Wales than there have ever been: one in five of the whole population and increasing by the day. This enriches Wales culturally, socially and economically.”   </p>
<p>I can see how some people moving into an area may have positive effects&#8230;..but the scale at which it&#8217;s happening with it&#8217;s negative effects cannot be good for any society.</p>
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		<title>By: defynog</title>
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		<dc:creator>defynog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention other dead communities like those in tourism areas like Pembrokeshire. Newport (pembs) is practically closed for most of the year as it is more less entirely made up of holiday cottages and second homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to mention other dead communities like those in tourism areas like Pembrokeshire. Newport (pembs) is practically closed for most of the year as it is more less entirely made up of holiday cottages and second homes.</p>
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