Comments on: Elin Jones, the Kremlin, Josef Goebbels and the Badger Trust

By: studiomeic

studiomeic — Wed, 05 May 2010 12:23:10 +0000

I have voted Plaid Cymru several times in the past but will not be voting for them this time specifially because of the Badger cull.

Cows get TB for the same reasons that humans get it – namely living in cold, damp and overcrowded conditions. Plaid are trying to make political gain by authorising the murder native creatures in favour of over-bred, unprofitable livestock that are getting ill because they aren’t built for our climate and have to be kept nose to tail in damp sheds over the winter.

Resorting to querying people about how Welsh they are is pretty tacky and far, far more fascist in tone than anything that the Badger Trust are saying.
On the subject of welshness; Badgers have been here longer than any of us humans, Welsh speaking or otherwise!

By: carol

carol — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:01:28 +0000

why not cull elin jones and all the cruel farmers ihate the lot of them the murdering bastards

By: Brychan

Brychan — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:50:37 +0000

Stevie is quite wrong when he states that in the Irish Republic TB infection rate is the same as when they started. The number of reactors to the TB test had declined substantially since 1998, from 45,000 to just under 24,200 in 2006 (46% decrease). The Irish Agricultural Ministry reported that badger culling was making a significant contribution to this fall. Looking at the detail of the Irish experience it can be seen that a selective geographical cull is even more effective. This, I understand, is what is being proposed in Wales.

By: Ffarmwr Ffowc

Ffarmwr Ffowc — Wed, 20 May 2009 12:54:12 +0000

“Senedd (full to bursting with farrming AM’s)”

What an idiotic statement. Coupled with your howls of racism = negation of any half decent points you have made, which upon consideration were nil.

Congrats Judi! You are today’s prize turkey! If you seriously want to debate, then at least do so in a way that doesn’t make you look like an irrational windup merchant.

It is animal rights terrorists that are the “scourge” – taking to violent means to further a cause is inexcusable, whatever the issue. Any moral high ground they think they may have is destroyed immediately by their actions.

I’m all for non-violent protest, even direct action against property when necessary, but violence and terror tactics against people is unforgivable.

By: Stevie

Stevie — Tue, 19 May 2009 21:45:40 +0000

Well said Judi. The only extremists here are those like Cambrapolitico who insist on identifying anyone who disagrees with him/her as English!! As if plenty of Welsh people (including many farmers) can’t see that WAG’s plans to go ahead with this cull are just a ‘sweetener’ to the farming lobby to actually start applying the improved cattle husbandry/biosecurity/movement controls/testing that really will bring TB infection down, and are furious with Elin Jones for attacking their own country’s native wildlife….I have lived in Wales (on a farm) for most of my life and two of my best friends, both of whom are Welsh (and Welsh-speaking) are campaigning against the cull (even though they have nothing to do with any animal rights groups). All the validated scientific research to date clearly shows that culling doesn’t work, as well as the experience of N. Ireland and Cumbria (both of whom have brought TB infection rates right down without culling) and S. Ireland – where, after killing 60,000 badgers, the TB infection rate is the same as when they started!
Noone minds a reasonable and informed discussion, but the kind of ignorant racist ranting that seems to come from a few on this site I’m afraid just shames the good people of Wales.

By: Judi Hewitt

Judi Hewitt — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:49:38 +0000

Animal farmers are the scourge of the planet – destroying an already impoverished land at an alarming rate.

The Welsh Assembly are refusing to take seriously the real causes of bTB. Cruel factory farming and land devoid of trace elements like selenium are at the root of this terrible disease, not badgers! And I think unless you’re completely ignorant, you might understand this! I’m not denying that badgers are also carriers of TB, but there’s no scientific proof to support claims by the Senedd (full to bursting with farrming AM’s) that its badgers passing the disease onto cattle. Badgers would also benefit from farm land rich in vital nutrients

But with silly twits like you tapping away at the mouse – getting annoyed at any kind of criticism, (basically because you don’t give a damn about the welfare of animals) are keeping ignorance alive and well.

To you mankind is above all over creatures, as if the laws that govern them, don’t apply to us.

But it’s not other animals (some that we shamefully call vermin) which are destryoing our world at an alarming rate – it’s mankind!

So much easier eh, to deny that animals are capable of suffering – much easier to view animals as mere commodities? That way we can make as money as possible from them, safe in the knowledge that animals don’t count – because they’re not capable of feeing fear, loss and pain are they?. Oh, but if only that were true?

What a sad world!