Helen Mary should beat Janet any day

Hopes that Plaid’s northern regional member Janet Ryder will be shoe-horned into the vacant position of deputy leader of the nationalist group in the Assembly seem somewhat misplaced.

Helen Mary Jones is also in the running among AMs, and she is heading for far more votes.

Leader of the group is of course Ieuan Wyn Jones; his deputy was Arfon AM Alun Ffred Jones. But Alun Ffred gives up the spot now he has been appointed heritage minister.

What is the job of the deputy leader ? Perhaps to keep those unfavoured with ministerial rank (and attendant cash) happy. More significantly, to speak in plenary when the party has to give an opinion on a non-devolved issue.

That demands a wide policy background, a knowledge of party philosophy, and an ability to think quickly and outside the box.

From among AMs present at the party conference in Aberystwyth, there was a surprising lack of knowledge of the vacancy. “Not been raised in the group,” I was told more than once.

But when ignorance turned to consideration, the name which shot forward was not Mrs Ryder. One of her fans has already been at work on the blogosphere loudly singing her praises, and 32 of her fans (or, one fan, 32 times) have given her their votes, in comparison to 20 for Helen Mary Jones (or ditto, one fan 20 times). No-one else really registered, with the Rev ex-Min (Rhodri Glyn Thomas) surprisingly managing only four – which makes me suspicious of the whole exercise.

Quite why Janet did so well, I don’t know. She came to notice recently with her pressure for car number plates to be allowed to carry a national flag; which is currently illegal, although the police rarely pursue the issue.

Those who sing her praises over the matter should perhaps ask why it was not the Welsh, but the Scots Nationalists, who originally raised the matter, nears ago. After all, Mrs Ryder was an AM at the time.

There is an assumption among quite a few Nationalists that the reason Mrs Ryder was adopted for top place on her regional list was not because of her ability, but because she was English, and sounded it. Several other names have been strongly canvassed for the position.

But it’s difficult to unseat an incumbent when it’s the party machinery that chooses. Unlike in Eire with its PR system (they use STV), the party list of candidates is “closed” in Wales. This means the position on the list is decided by the party beforehand, rather than the electorate deciding the positioning.

Mrs Ryder has certainly kept up her Englishness, through her vocal support, for instance, for rugby league – a long lost cause in Wales, even if they still play it in her native north-east of England (she comes from Sunderland).

At some point in the history of the Assembly, plenary seat-swapping was under way, and I decided to check how she was observed by other political parties. Did they see her Englishness as a major asset to Plaid and as a threat, for instance, to their own party’s ability to be, in their own view, the prime speaker for Wales.

I tried the line on a good contact in Labour. The answer was simple; in a word, they recognised her as a local AM, but as nothing more. No insults were considered against her; they really weren’t worth coining.

As Plaid member of the old education committee, she did a sound job. But nothing more. I know Jane Davidson, the old minister, can seem a bit big-headed (which is why she is called The Princess, but everyone knows she’s a right to that epithet). But one got the feeling that Ms Davidson was far more worried about the weight carried by Plaid’s Welsh-language education spokesman, the now-retired Owen John Thomas, South Central.

It’s interesting that Helen Mary Jones is often referred to by her initials – HMJ. If that seems a trifle similar to a title that Ms Davidson sometimes seems to carry that is a sign that there is considerable similarity between the pair.

For instance, an interest in detail of policy over a wide area. An ability to spell out policy in fields where the party hierarchy have yet to tread. A willingness to be different. A mistress of their own thoughts. Perhaps even a fondness for ensuring that her well thought-out views are taking fully into account in any party discussion.

Another similarity is that both are capable of their party’s top job. HMJ had a go, and nearly got there. The Princess has made it known she has foresworn going for Rhodri Morgan’s job when he steps down – but then she’s married, and perhaps fancies seeing her husband occasionally.

HMJ’s talents are currently under-used. If Plaid is to pass the Tories at the next election in number of seats won, the party will have to use its man and brain-power to its utmost.

A person who is good enough to be leader must not be by-passed.

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  1. Alwyn ap Huw says:

    I don’t understand your criticism of Janet for being “English”. By virtue of living in Wales and believing in Wales Janet is very much a Welsh woman. By your definition isn’t Helen Mary also English?

  2. Dai Bola says:

    ….yes Alwyn and fair play to Janet Ryder….she has set an example. The thing about HMJ is that sometimes she comes across as an almost lefty student union idealist…..although an eloquent one. She strikes me of being a primary school teacher type too. Personally, as a Plaid voter for every election to date, I wouldn’t like her to get too high up in the party. I cannot here support Ms Ryder either because she is a bit of and unknown to me…..

  3. cambriapolitico says:

    Quite true. But let’s not be soppy. You know what I mean and I’m not going to be politically correct for the same of those with tender consciences.

  4. cambriapolitico says:

    The reply was to Alwyn, and Dai interfered !

  5. Christine Craddock says:

    Hang on a minute Mr Betts!
    In your post ‘Flagging Numberplates’ (September 9th) you were praising Janet Ryder to the hilt, were you not? Now, here you are criticising her and putting the boot in. I thought you were a gentleman!
    Come on spill the beans – who ‘got at you’ at the conference in Aber last weekend? It sounds like some there was spiteful briefing going behind the scenes again!
    Give us an explanation for this change of heart Mr Betts! Spill those beans!
    (P.S. Helen is very good however!)

  6. cambriapolitico says:

    Not at all. I was using Janet’s name to give a “today” (in fact, several months’ old) line to a story which has been sadly neglected by Plaid for years. A journalists’ mention of a name should not be construed as total support for that individual – any more than absence of a mentioned necessarily means anything.

    For some time, Plaid seems too much to be acting as a cheer-leader for the Assembly’s mainly-Labour administration. I seem to remember that the Lib Dems were more independent-minded when they were in coalition. I must start asking Mike and his pals whether my memory is correct.

    Certainly, the Lib Dems never entirely trusted Labour. You’ll read in Cambria next week (publication delayed by floods – according to the printers !) about one clash which has certainly occurred. But I know about that one only because of information published during the glorious days of the old committee system, when Cardiff Bay was moderately open in its governance method – which it certainly isn’t now !

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