Comments on: Fair Local Taxation for a New Wales http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/10/fair-local-taxation-for-a-new-wales/ News, Issues & Comment on Welsh Politics & Economy Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:18:22 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: roger http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/10/fair-local-taxation-for-a-new-wales/comment-page-1/#comment-779 roger Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:25:28 +0000 http://cambriapolitico.com/?p=239#comment-779 Whow!!! you have got a chip on your shoulder. I never mentioned anything about the bankers and politicians but that is point I can't argue with you on. You seem to have neglected to mention anything about the other parts of my response about Governments looking for scapegoats to take peoples minds of them being to blame. Incidentely I am one of those scapegoats I will leave you to figure out which one and I am having less money than you. Whow!!! you have got a chip on your shoulder.
I never mentioned anything about the bankers and politicians but that is point I can’t argue with you on.
You seem to have neglected to mention anything about the other parts of my response about Governments looking for scapegoats to take peoples minds of them being to blame.
Incidentely I am one of those scapegoats I will leave you to figure out which one and I am having less money than you.

]]> By: Dai http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/10/fair-local-taxation-for-a-new-wales/comment-page-1/#comment-778 Dai Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:23:14 +0000 http://cambriapolitico.com/?p=239#comment-778 Roger, "the advice young people get from parents and from schools is a joke." You are joking aren't you? This is a penis....you put it there....and you end up with.......wait for it....a baby! But don't worry, you'll get everything you want of the state even if you didn't know the father very well and don't care for him anymore and you've now got a new one who you are pregnant once again by. No, Roger, I am not looking for scapegoats. Fuck....if only I could go back a few years. I made a mistake.....I had to pay for it....and I still am paying.....and why should they? As for the bankers and politicians who got us into this current mess, then I would have them all sacked and deprived of their pensions...... But wait, Roger, I suppose they aren't to be blamed either. Nobody is responsibe for anything......or maybe according to you they are different..... PS I got a salary increase this year.....2.5%. It amounted to 15p more per hour. Work it out. Roger,

“the advice young people get from parents and from schools is a joke.”

You are joking aren’t you? This is a penis….you put it there….and you end up with…….wait for it….a baby! But don’t worry, you’ll get everything you want of the state even if you didn’t know the father very well and don’t care for him anymore and you’ve now got a new one who you are pregnant once again by.

No, Roger, I am not looking for scapegoats. Fuck….if only I could go back a few years. I made a mistake…..I had to pay for it….and I still am paying…..and why should they?

As for the bankers and politicians who got us into this current mess, then I would have them all sacked and deprived of their pensions…… But wait, Roger, I suppose they aren’t to be blamed either. Nobody is responsibe for anything……or maybe according to you they are different…..

PS I got a salary increase this year…..2.5%. It amounted to 15p more per hour. Work it out.

]]> By: roger http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/10/fair-local-taxation-for-a-new-wales/comment-page-1/#comment-776 roger Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:53:27 +0000 http://cambriapolitico.com/?p=239#comment-776 Dai How can you say being a single Mam is a lifestyle choice. What do you define as a single Mam, is it the young girls who get pregnant through a mistake, they do happen you know, because even contreception is not 100% effective. The young girls who become pregant through ignorance, because the advice young people get from parents and from schools is a joke. I can go on about peer pressure. Mams who have become divorced and are now single. There are also single Dads don't forget. We always look for scapegoats whether it is single Mams, the unemployed, the sick or disabled. We have had Governments of the two diferent political parties for decades and at different levels and they have all said they are going to make it better. They have all used the most vulnurable in society as the scapegoats for thier mistakes, just as you are. The scapegoats they have used over all these years are still with us and until they admit that it is their mistakes and corrupt policies that cause the problems, not the most vulnerable in society, then perhapes we can start becoming a more civilised one Because of people like you who use the vulnerable as scapegoats we will never rise out of this cesspit we deem to call a civilised and caring society. Dai
How can you say being a single Mam is a lifestyle choice.
What do you define as a single Mam, is it the young girls who get pregnant through a mistake, they do happen you know, because even contreception is not 100% effective. The young girls who become pregant through ignorance, because the advice young people get from parents and from schools is a joke. I can go on about peer pressure. Mams who have become divorced and are now single.
There are also single Dads don’t forget.
We always look for scapegoats whether it is single Mams, the unemployed, the sick or disabled.
We have had Governments of the two diferent political parties for decades and at different levels and they have all said they are going to make it better. They have all used the most vulnurable in society as the scapegoats for thier mistakes, just as you are. The scapegoats they have used over all these years are still with us and until they admit that it is their mistakes and corrupt policies that cause the problems, not the most vulnerable in society, then perhapes we can start becoming a more civilised one
Because of people like you who use the vulnerable as scapegoats we will never rise out of this cesspit we deem to call a civilised and caring society.

]]> By: Dai http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/10/fair-local-taxation-for-a-new-wales/comment-page-1/#comment-774 Dai Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:17:47 +0000 http://cambriapolitico.com/?p=239#comment-774 Isn't it true that between a 1/3 and a 1/2 of council tax bill receipts go towards funding the pensions of council staff? Unsustainable. You talk of single mums. Very emotional subject. But it was a life-style choice was it not.....? So, a couple who have stayed together and who have a joint salary over a certain amount need to pay for the mistakes somebody else made.....Carry on in this way and people will start thinking that it was a mistake to live frugally, and try and get on in the first place. Mind you, in the current economic climate, I think that you will find that there will be very little appetite for paying for mistakes that others have made......as Broon said....or was it Darling....."he nice decade is over" Isn’t it true that between a 1/3 and a 1/2 of council tax bill receipts go towards funding the pensions of council staff? Unsustainable.

You talk of single mums. Very emotional subject. But it was a life-style choice was it not…..? So, a couple who have stayed together and who have a joint salary over a certain amount need to pay for the mistakes somebody else made…..Carry on in this way and people will start thinking that it was a mistake to live frugally, and try and get on in the first place. Mind you, in the current economic climate, I think that you will find that there will be very little appetite for paying for mistakes that others have made……as Broon said….or was it Darling…..”he nice decade is over”

]]> By: James D http://cambriapolitico.com/2008/10/fair-local-taxation-for-a-new-wales/comment-page-1/#comment-773 James D Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:09:18 +0000 http://cambriapolitico.com/?p=239#comment-773 I would question how this could be achieved without multiplying wannabe Sir Humphreys, sending vast quantities information back and forward between Cardiff and Whitehall, as well as between local councils and Cardiff. The obvious solution would be to transfer all income tax to Cardiff, which would then grant Whitehall departments money for their retained functions, but I can't really see HM Treasury allowing that. I would question how this could be achieved without multiplying wannabe Sir Humphreys, sending vast quantities information back and forward between Cardiff and Whitehall, as well as between local councils and Cardiff. The obvious solution would be to transfer all income tax to Cardiff, which would then grant Whitehall departments money for their retained functions, but I can’t really see HM Treasury allowing that.

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