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	<title>Comments on: Untrue, Untrue, Untrue &#8211; True Wales</title>
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		<title>By: gethin</title>
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		<dc:creator>gethin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Caerffili (Caerphilly to some of devolution’s opponents)&quot;

Nonsense - it&#039;s possible to be a monoglot English-speaker and support devolution. To suggest otherwise is to play into True Wales&#039; hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Caerffili (Caerphilly to some of devolution’s opponents)&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense &#8211; it&#8217;s possible to be a monoglot English-speaker and support devolution. To suggest otherwise is to play into True Wales&#8217; hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Jac Llosin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jac Llosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can&#039;t expect anything better from Untrue Wales. Back in the 1979 referendum campaign we were treated to some truly inspired lying from the anti-devolutionists.

Kinnock never tired of telling us about children on Ynys Mon forced to wet themselves because they couldn&#039;t ask in Welsh to go to the toilet. This &#039;nationalist&#039; evil he made sound just one step short of gas chambers.

Then we had Wyn Roberts going around the rural areas frightening the thick woolly socks off farmers by telling them that if we had devolution then Wales would be run by those frighful, communist miners in the Valleys - who planned to nationalise all Welsh land.

Contemporaneously, George Thomas was telling those miners, and others in the south, that a devolved Wales would be run by sheep-shagging hill folk who spoke not a word of English.

Looking back, it was the best comedy show in town. It looks as if they&#039;re back, with a new cast but the same old lines. I don&#039;t think our people will fall for it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can&#8217;t expect anything better from Untrue Wales. Back in the 1979 referendum campaign we were treated to some truly inspired lying from the anti-devolutionists.</p>
<p>Kinnock never tired of telling us about children on Ynys Mon forced to wet themselves because they couldn&#8217;t ask in Welsh to go to the toilet. This &#8216;nationalist&#8217; evil he made sound just one step short of gas chambers.</p>
<p>Then we had Wyn Roberts going around the rural areas frightening the thick woolly socks off farmers by telling them that if we had devolution then Wales would be run by those frighful, communist miners in the Valleys &#8211; who planned to nationalise all Welsh land.</p>
<p>Contemporaneously, George Thomas was telling those miners, and others in the south, that a devolved Wales would be run by sheep-shagging hill folk who spoke not a word of English.</p>
<p>Looking back, it was the best comedy show in town. It looks as if they&#8217;re back, with a new cast but the same old lines. I don&#8217;t think our people will fall for it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Higgitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Higgitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sunderland Commission was the Commission on Local Government Electoral Arrangements in Wales.

I suspect you are thinking of the Richard Commission, otherwise known as the Commission on the Powers and Electoral Arrangements of the National Assembly for Wales.

Regards.

Adam

(resubmitted due to a link error above)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sunderland Commission was the Commission on Local Government Electoral Arrangements in Wales.</p>
<p>I suspect you are thinking of the Richard Commission, otherwise known as the Commission on the Powers and Electoral Arrangements of the National Assembly for Wales.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
<p>Adam</p>
<p>(resubmitted due to a link error above)</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 06:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog is, if anything, getting even more erratic.  Don Touhig is MP for Islwyn.  Islwyn doesn&#039;t border Monmouth.  Torfaen does, but its MP is Paul Murphy.  He&#039;s actually Secretary of State for Wales, so I&#039;m sure you must have heard of him.

The thing I find astonishing is that you never correct these mistakes, but plough on regardless.  Is there no professional pride?  Aren&#039;t you ashamed of constantly talking codswallop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog is, if anything, getting even more erratic.  Don Touhig is MP for Islwyn.  Islwyn doesn&#8217;t border Monmouth.  Torfaen does, but its MP is Paul Murphy.  He&#8217;s actually Secretary of State for Wales, so I&#8217;m sure you must have heard of him.</p>
<p>The thing I find astonishing is that you never correct these mistakes, but plough on regardless.  Is there no professional pride?  Aren&#8217;t you ashamed of constantly talking codswallop?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We often hear the argument of what would happen under a Tory government, this wouldn&#039;t be representative of the people of Wales, we&#039;re told.

However, if my memory serves me right, didn&#039;t Wales return many more Tory MPs under Thatcher than they returned Plaid Cymru MPs?

So couldn&#039;t it be argued that Tory policies are more representative in Wales than Plaid Cymru&#039;s policies?

Oh yeah,last time I looked, Don Touhig was the MP for Islwyn.I also think that Touhig, Murphy and Davies got many more votes than the SE East Wales AMs from the list. So who speaks for the people of Wales?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We often hear the argument of what would happen under a Tory government, this wouldn&#8217;t be representative of the people of Wales, we&#8217;re told.</p>
<p>However, if my memory serves me right, didn&#8217;t Wales return many more Tory MPs under Thatcher than they returned Plaid Cymru MPs?</p>
<p>So couldn&#8217;t it be argued that Tory policies are more representative in Wales than Plaid Cymru&#8217;s policies?</p>
<p>Oh yeah,last time I looked, Don Touhig was the MP for Islwyn.I also think that Touhig, Murphy and Davies got many more votes than the SE East Wales AMs from the list. So who speaks for the people of Wales?</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
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		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cough. Islwyn. Although it used to be called Bedwellty when Mr Kinnock started out.

Anyway, I will be (predictably) disappointed if there isn&#039;t a massive protest vote against Don the Dinosaur in Islwyn next time. How can the Islwyn turkeys vote for Christmas again and again and again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cough. Islwyn. Although it used to be called Bedwellty when Mr Kinnock started out.</p>
<p>Anyway, I will be (predictably) disappointed if there isn&#8217;t a massive protest vote against Don the Dinosaur in Islwyn next time. How can the Islwyn turkeys vote for Christmas again and again and again?</p>
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