Lib Dems always Cinderella

The Lib DemsFor the Liberal Democrats, the European votes looked a disaster, and one must wonder whether the party has much future in Wales, writes Clive Betts from the National Assembly press gallery.

Before the poll, the party was confident about winning the fourth seat; in the event, the Lib Dems came 14,000 votes short, and it went to UKIP.

And worse than that, in the Westminster constituency returns [available from the Pembrokeshire County Council website] the party usually came fifth.

In only six seats was a decent vote scored – in Cardiff Central, where the party came first;  the party was second in  Ceredigion, Brecon and Radnor, Swansea West and Newport East; while it managed third place in Montgomery.

One of the first questions from the press was whether it was time to ditch Lembit Opik in Montgomery before he got ditched by the electors.

In both Powys seats, the sitting Lib Dems were resoundingly passed by the Tories.

Kirsty Williams, the party leader and sitting AM for Brecon, was taking the briefing. Her argument was simple – her party consistently under-polls at European elections in Powys.

She refrained from saying why that might be. But it is simply because the large hill farming electorates of those two areas are strongly anti-European – that might seem strange as it is farming subsidies from Europe which help keep those farmers in business. But that it is how it is.

The Lib Dems are probably the party which is best at comparing the different results that can be produced by elections for Brussels, Cardiff and London.

Montgomery is the obvious problem constituency. The party clearly believes Lembit Opik, the MP, is at risk over his antics (with both cheeky girls and with asteroids). “He is the right candidate,” Ms Williams proclaimed. Which is rather different from  expecting him to win.

She then added, “The Welsh party will be doing everything they can to get him elected.” This presumably means drafting in workers from the plenty of constituencies in Wales and in border counties of England where a win cannot be expected.

When similar doubts were declared by the press about Ceredigion – where Plaid scored almost twice as many votes as the Lib Dems in the Euro-poll – Ms Williams put on her lively-lady act. Whatever figures the press could produce, Ms Williams had others. And those figures were far more convincing. At least, they convinced her.

Compared with the Euro-election five years ago, Lib Dem support in Ceredigion had risen substantially, we were told.

Afterwards, Peter Black, the regional AM for South West, weighed in. He forecast that Mark Williams, the MP who unexpectedly snatched the seat from Plaid at the last London election, would go back with a greatly-enhanced majority.

This line strongly contrasts with what Plaid says – in particular Elin Jones, the AM. But the Lib Dems refuse to give way. They talk of the strong support on the doorstep that was during the Euro-election willingly given to Mr Williams.

Really, there is only one constituency where the party polled well – Cardiff Central, where the sitting AM strongly challenged Ms Williams to succeed Mike German. But youth won out over age and experience.

Ms Williams fought her leadership election on the need to “change the way in which we organise the party”. Yet the only person who clearly had organised her party successfully was Mrs Randerson.

But the Lib Dems possess two very different base-roots in Wales. There is the rural base – and that is where Ms Williams admitted she had been temped to pay the candidacy fee for her cash-strapped would-be UKIP candidate in Brecon. That was because he would be sure to take votes from the feared Tory challenger.

The second base is the urban one represented by Mrs Randerson. That base is achieved through the archetypical Focus newsletters delivered each month to every elector, focussing on local problems, and, of course, the possible Lib Dem answer.

In Cardiff, Focus eventually won the city council. The same is on its way both in Swansea (with Mr Black the leader) and, more slowly, in Newport.

Ms Williams declared she was “very buoyed up” by the Welsh results. The party had out-performed the parties in both England and Scotland (as the Welsh votes increase was by only 0.2 per cent, rising to 10.7 per cent, compared with 21.2 per cent for the Tories, the Welsh leaders), she really didn’t have much to boast about.

Ms Williams said she was “disappointed” not to have won the party’s first seat.

In the way that things are going, perhaps she should be more concerned about the possibility of losing the party’s last seat – which will probably be in Cardiff Central.  Although, on current showing, Ms Williams would have had to become old and experienced.

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  1. James D says:

    I don't think they need fear losing Cardiff Central at Westminster for now. Jenny Willott is one of their better MPs after all.

  2. cambriapolitico says:

    And the MP himself for Montgomery has said he does not believe his antics over an eastern woman has upset his farming voters. Apparently, the line from such characters has been – So the other sister is free; send her over here !

    And Glyn Davies, his exceedingly-dangerous (in votes terms) Tory opponent has not entirey dissimilar issues to consider. There’s the matter of the lorry and his trousers.

    But the fact that the former AM for Mid and West was always talking (bragging ?) about the incident would mean that no harm was involved.

    One thing to be said about the Tories is that they know how to re-create. Perhaps Lembit might like to list the number of his former secretaries who might have had such thoughts, but to no avail.

  3. [...] Clive Betts’ analysis of the European election result suggests that the results were a disaster for us. An easy conclusion to jump to, but an incorrect one. His assertion that we were ‘confident’ of getting the fourth seat is wrong for a start. Yes, we were hopeful, but we also realised that there would be many other factors that would affect our vote beyond our control, UKIP being one of them. No-one ever said we would get it, just that we had a chance. Clive also fails to take the 2004 result into account at all. We did slightly worse then than we did this time, yet still increased our vote in 2005. I might save his article and post it to him when we increase our seats in the General Election asking him to blog on just how wrong he got it. [...]

  4. [...] Posted on 16 June 2009 by admin by Clive Betts and Cambria Politico [...]

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