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	<title>Comments on: Lib Dems always Cinderella</title>
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		<title>By: Lib Dems always Cinderella&#160;&#124;&#160;UK Progressive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lib Dems always Cinderella&#160;&#124;&#160;UK Progressive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted on 16 June 2009 by admin by Clive Betts and Cambria Politico [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted on 16 June 2009 by admin by Clive Betts and Cambria Politico [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This week I have mostly been reading…. &#8211; Freedom Central</title>
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		<dc:creator>This week I have mostly been reading…. &#8211; Freedom Central</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Clive Betts&#8217; analysis of the European election result suggests that the results were a disaster for us. An easy conclusion to jump to, but an incorrect one. His assertion that we were ‘confident’ of getting the fourth seat is wrong for a start. Yes, we were hopeful, but we also realised that there would be many other factors that would affect our vote beyond our control, UKIP being one of them. No-one ever said we would get it, just that we had a chance. Clive also fails to take the 2004 result into account at all. We did slightly worse then than we did this time, yet still increased our vote in 2005. I might save his article and post it to him when we increase our seats in the General Election asking him to blog on just how wrong he got it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Clive Betts&#8217; analysis of the European election result suggests that the results were a disaster for us. An easy conclusion to jump to, but an incorrect one. His assertion that we were ‘confident’ of getting the fourth seat is wrong for a start. Yes, we were hopeful, but we also realised that there would be many other factors that would affect our vote beyond our control, UKIP being one of them. No-one ever said we would get it, just that we had a chance. Clive also fails to take the 2004 result into account at all. We did slightly worse then than we did this time, yet still increased our vote in 2005. I might save his article and post it to him when we increase our seats in the General Election asking him to blog on just how wrong he got it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cambriapolitico</title>
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		<dc:creator>cambriapolitico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the MP himself for Montgomery has said he does not believe his antics over an eastern woman has upset his farming voters. Apparently, the line from such characters has been - So the other sister is free; send her over here !

And Glyn Davies, his exceedingly-dangerous (in votes terms) Tory opponent has not entirey dissimilar issues to consider. There&#039;s the matter of the lorry and his trousers.

But the fact that the former AM for Mid and West was always talking (bragging ?) about the incident would mean that no harm was involved.

One thing to be said about the Tories is that they know how to re-create. Perhaps Lembit might like to list the number of his former secretaries who might have had such thoughts, but to no avail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the MP himself for Montgomery has said he does not believe his antics over an eastern woman has upset his farming voters. Apparently, the line from such characters has been &#8211; So the other sister is free; send her over here !</p>
<p>And Glyn Davies, his exceedingly-dangerous (in votes terms) Tory opponent has not entirey dissimilar issues to consider. There&#8217;s the matter of the lorry and his trousers.</p>
<p>But the fact that the former AM for Mid and West was always talking (bragging ?) about the incident would mean that no harm was involved.</p>
<p>One thing to be said about the Tories is that they know how to re-create. Perhaps Lembit might like to list the number of his former secretaries who might have had such thoughts, but to no avail.</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
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		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they need fear losing Cardiff Central at Westminster for now. Jenny Willott is one of their better MPs after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t think they need fear losing Cardiff Central at Westminster for now. Jenny Willott is one of their better MPs after all.</p>
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