I was pleasantly surprised by those at the meeting. Whilst most had some experience working within the main political parties, this was not true of all. What did unite was a dissatisfaction of our unquestioned drift into giving more power to our AMs without real consideration of alternatives or indeed quite what political system, perhaps country we will end up with. There was certainly (and believe me I was carefully listening for one) not even a hint of any form of secret agenda. Being the only group truly questioning the current self-fulfilling prophesy of unbridled power drifting to the Eli Jenkins, the wish is for us all to consider real alternatives of devolved democracy and not to accept stage 4 as a done deal.

Both partners in the coalition government needing to keep a unified front (for differing reasons!) has kept any meaningful debate (if any has occurred?) behind closed doors and is a sure sign that the current system is not the best for Wales. There is dissatisfaction in a sizable proportion of the population, not perhaps within the microcosm that exists within this site and others, but it is there. People can argue over which key the bell shaped graph rings out its message, but listen and it is there. Give all people in Wales of whichever view they may have respect for their considered opinions and in turn consider with an open mind which ones may indeed have something to offer. The tone of some arguments offered on some sites smack of petty personal attempts to extrapolate briefly expressed views into some grand plan which is clearly not intended.

My experience was that of people trying to express well meant views with the best of intentions. Civil wars take generations to heal and we don’t need a Gettysburg, rise above it and give True Wales a break. After all they arranged their next public event around the need for people to watch………..the Ireland / Wales rugby match!

Tell them to bring with them a huge Gwenn ha Du flag too! Is there a Saint Erwan parade over there which could do with a Welsh bagad and flag?

Attempts by the Assembly to get a change in the law (this is still a London-controlled issue) have been met by by yawns in London, or by quiet straight opposition.

At one time, the Assembly had some hopes on the issue. We got as far as hearing that the CBI weren’t happy (due to loss of production). But it seems London (ie Labour in the great wen) have now gone as far as they can – without saying an outright No – to say No.